Lee Isaac Chung on Capturing American Storms, Big and Small

By Lee Isaac Chung and Zachary Lee
July 18, 2024
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When it was announced that Minari director Lee Isaac Chung would helm Twisters, the follow-up to the 1996 disaster film, Twister, I’ll admit I was surprised.

Twister is a high-octane film about amateur storm chasers who risk their lives trying to test an experimental weather alert system. Its sequel, which boasts even more gargantuan set pieces and an even larger scope, seems like such a departure from the meditative and personal story of Minari, which draws directly from Chung’s own life as it follows the story of a Korean American family trying to survive in rural Arkansas. Yet Chung’s approach to the franchise is just as personal in many respects.

Growing up in Arkansas, Chung is no stranger to the devastating effects of tornadoes and his film communicates the embodied fear and awe of these forces of nature. The result is a rare blockbuster film whose themes are in sync with its thrills.

Twisters focuses on Kate (Daisy Edgar-Jones), a tornado chaser and meteorologist who retires after a tornado-chasing excursion goes wrong. When her friend and former colleague, Javi (Anthony Ramos), asks her to join his team in Oklahoma so they can learn how to stop and tame the tornadoes that are devastating the communities there, she reluctantly agrees. Throughout the film, Kate and Javi’s team butts heads with Tyler Ownes (Glen Powell) and his crew of storm chasers, who have found a way to livestream their close encounters with tornadoes and spin it into a lucrative profession. They have to find ways to begrudgingly work together as multiple storms devastate the town they find themselves in.

Indeed, on the surface, the film can feel like the worst kind of escapism but Chung never lets the promised spectacle overshadow the human story at its center.

Ahead of the film’s nationwide release on July 19, Chung spoke with us about the thematic throughline between his films thus far, giving a personality to the storms, and his trepidations and hopes of unleashing Twisters in the midst of so much chaos and destruction, environmental and otherwise.

Minor spoilers for Twisters follow.

Zachary Lee: Going from a project like Minari to something like Twisters seems like a big jump but I’ve found that there are more similarities than I expected. Thematically, both deal with humanity’s futile attempts to make peace with metaphysical forces beyond their control. If Minari was a Garden of Eden-type story, Twisters, maybe with all the water, feels like a Noah’s Ark-type story. I’m curious about how you view these films in conversation with each other, or in the canon of your other films like Lucky Life, Munyurangabo, etc.
Lee Isaac Chung: : I haven’t told anyone this but on my own, I’ve been thinking about the different elements of the earth that I want to have running through the films I’ve made. I’ve thought of Munyurangabo as my “earth” story. There’s a lot that’s in the mud and in the dirt with that one. Lucky Life is very much about water. Minari is also about water in some ways … I played with a lot of elements in that one but the main element is fire. With Twisters, I was thinking of the element of “wind”… obviously, it comes with the territory [laughs]. I like having these elements as anchors in my films. It reminds me to think about how our environments inform who we are.
ZL:: Love that elemental throughline. There’s a sequence in Twisters where, when Tyler makes his entrance, we see a group of Korean storm chasers who flock to meet him. For a moment I thought: “Is that David Yi (Alan Kim) from Minari? Did he grow up to chase tornadoes?”
LIC:: [Laughs] That’s my buddy, Doug Seok, who’s an associate producer on this movie. I put him in that scene; we wanted to sneak in some lines of Korean. But I like this theory that who we see there is David grown up. I’m going with that.
ZL:: I appreciated those Korean lines. I know you had experiential knowledge of tornadoes having grown up with them but when it came to knowing the actual science behind them, was that something you had to learn when you boarded this project?
LIC: : I’ll admit I really didn’t have as much of an education until I started this project. I really did feel like I went to storm boot camp. I’ve become quite a weather nerd now. I can see why people get into it.
ZL: : That’s great. It’s always an added bonus when a job teaches and stretches us beyond what we’ve known before. Even though your filmography consists of smaller, indie projects, you’ve shared that you always had a desire to do action films. I’m sure you scratched that itch some with the episodes of The Mandalorian and Star Wars: Skeleton Crew. I’m wondering with Twisters if there were dreams or ideas you had from childhood or even your early filmmaking days that you were finally able to realize?
LIC:: After Minari, I went back to watching a lot of Spielberg movies. I wanted to get a better sense of the way he uses his camera and the way that he tells stories. That was all in service of me trying to make that Mandalorian episode and also Skeleton Crew. I’ve always loved Amblin movies growing up [Spielberg’s production company]. I always wondered when I was researching and watching those films, what it would be like to actually make one myself and to try to do some of the things that I saw Spielberg was doing. Watching his movies makes me feel like a kid again and that’s what really drove me with this one. The journey that Kate goes on is one of her wanting to reclaim some of that childhood wonder and joy which mirrors what I wanted to do with this film.
ZL:: The escalation of glee in what you could depict is definitely felt throughout. At the end of Minari, you set a barn on fire and here you set a tornado on fire…
LIC: : [Laughs] Yeah, and in the next one, I’ll have to set outer space on fire.
ZL:: [Laughs] You have to keep raising the stakes. Speaking of the titular tornadoes and twisters, I love how you gave them such personality. They feel like living things that roar and scream. During sequences of destruction, I could almost imagine them as creatures that take a sort of animalistic pleasure as they chew oil rigs and the tops of roofs and spit them back out. I’d love to hear what it was like to craft the personality of these storms and the intention behind that.

LIC:: I’m glad that comes across for you. That sentiment was definitely something the team and I were working hard on. Early on when I was researching tornadoes, I remember I read this article that in Medieval times, the mythology of dragons was tied to the power of tornadoes. People who had seen tornadoes had no way of describing what they had seen because what they witnessed was so monstrous and unexplainable. I love this idea that dragons throughout storytelling have had their own personalities and their own terrifying qualities, but they’re also things that you can absolutely revere and be in awe of.

With this film, these tornadoes were my dragons. I wanted them to have their own personality and look and for them to do something different in each scene. On the VFX side, that meant we treated them as their own characters and were very clear about the differences between them and the different functions they’d serve. The VFX team and I had a shorthand about how we’d describe each tornado and we’d often talk about them as if they had human characteristics and traits.

On the sound side, we worked with a lot of interesting sounds to help give the tornadoes their voice. Al Nelson was putting in sounds of wolves, horses, and seals into these tornadoes to fill them with this sort of howl. We didn’t want this howl to be inorganic but to really feel natural and to make a tornado feel as though it has an individual voice.

ZL:: You communicate this reverence and respect even in your shot composition. In one of the very first scenes, you focus on Kate but from the POV of the grass under her feet. It makes the grass feel much bigger in comparison to Kate before you then zoom out and we see the coming storm.
LIC: : When we were shooting in Oklahoma, we were filming from before sunrise all the way to sunset. The clouds can be so epic out there. You find yourself looking up constantly and that influenced a lot of the way we filmed. We were looking up with such reverence while filming and I hope that can be communicated to the audience.
ZL: : On that note, I wasn’t just thinking about this because Brandon Perea’s in this film, but Jordan Peele’s Nope came to mind while I was watching Twisters. Both of your films touch on the dangers of commodifying spectacle; that’s something that Kate reprimands Tyler about initially. I’m wondering if, as a director, there was ever a tension between delivering blockbuster thrills on a massive scale while also being mindful that for a lot of people watching this, the destruction you depict might hit close to home.
LIC: : I’m always most interested in people. I’m interested in depicting nature in the way it specifically relates to human beings. Human beings are not outside of nature but very much a part of it and so in every scene, whether it’s thrilling or harrowing, I wanted to make sure that we talk about the reality of that. Personally, for me, I wanted to make sure I was talking about it in a very responsible, realistic, and yet entertaining way. To balance all of those things though is very difficult and so the tonal element is something I wrestle with.
ZL: : I think one scene that made me think of that tension was in that movie theater sequence where the patrons are watching Frankenstein and suddenly the theater screen is torn away by a tornado. There’s no separation between the horrors on-screen and the horrors of the real world. What was filming that sequence like?

LIC: : The filming of it was unfortunately not as glamorous as what you see on-screen. I knew from the very start when I got involved with this project that that moment in the script was a key reason why I wanted to do this film. I said, “I have to film that scene.” I had this wonderful image to reference of an actual movie theater in Kentucky where a similar thing happened. A wall gave way and what you see is this empty proscenium with destruction behind it and all the movie theater seats are covered in dust. That was such a powerful image and I was working towards that in the actual production.

In the moment of production though, there are so many logistical things going on. We have fans that are running at high speed in this theater space we built. There’s this false ceiling where we have rigged stunt performers and wires. We had this giant rigging for that theater screen to rip out and that took a lot of work and force to actually rip that out. This was all in this giant, reconfigured basketball arena that was in Oklahoma City. We were able to build a giant blue screen environment. That sequence was definitely tons of movie magic and wind [Laughs].

ZL: Movie magic and wind … forever an iconic pairing. I know the dangers and effects of climate change were just as prescient when you first boarded this project but having Twisters come out at a time when communities worldwide have been devastated by hurricanes, heat waves, and dust storms feels especially relevant. Is there any trepidation on your end about releasing this film when the ache of the earth is felt so poignantly?
LIC: I feel as though in many ways, films have not depicted the reality of our changing environment. It’s a hard topic to tackle because it’s very easy to become preachy, and we didn’t want to preach with this movie. What I felt was good about making this film was that we can acknowledge how the nature of storms has changed due to the effects of climate change and we can use it not to preach, but to point to the good work that scientists are doing in this area. Twister motivated a lot of people to get into the meteorological sciences and I do hope that the way we present the science of this film, can inspire a generation of people to possibly do the same.
ZL:: As much as you highlight the importance and the good work of scientists in this, I also appreciated how you made space for mystery. There’s this line that Tyler says in the film that the formation of tornadoes is “part science and part religion.”
LIC: I do feel like the more that we invest into an appreciation and love for the world around us and for nature … the more we feel like something good can happen despite what’s going on. We can have optimism about the future and I hope that we have more stories that really show the beauty of the natural world.
—Zachary Lee (he/him) is a freelance film and culture writer based in Chicago. He frequently writes about the intersection between popular culture and spirituality. Find him hopelessly attempting to catch up on his watchlist over on Letterboxd.

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